Marilyn Monroe, the name radiates with Beauty, Affair, and of course death. But what happened to this glamorous and beautiful young woman? Was she murdered, was it an accident or was it a suicide. This thread will delve deeply into the possibility of all three. Perhaps this will shed light on what really happened to her.
Brief Biography
Marilyn Monroe
As the above describes. Marilyn’s mother had psychological problems. Which may have passed down to her daughter. Her father was unknown and he could have had psychological problems, unfortunately we will never know. Also what we see is that Marilyn’s mother’s psychological problems were so severe that she was forced to quit her job.
As we also see here she faced many challenges in her young life. What she missed the most in her life was balance. She never had a balance of life, never had what she needed. Again as you can see life all over…
She liked to be cuddled a highly important statement. Because it shows and demonstares that she was yearning for love and not just love” but unconditional love. Which Jimmy did not provide, because he left her. At this time young Marilyn enrolled herself in Drama classes and began to study Jean Harlow and Lana Turner. After getting a job at 20th Century Fox, Marilyn died her hair blonde and divorced Jimmy. Sometime later Marilyn Married Joe DiMaggio.
Marilyn has now and will be an image for all. This was a clear turning point, not only adding stress to her, but stress to her way of life. She was sought after by lovers, not true love. This would plague her in her life.
Again as we can see she is looking for LOVE, not lovers as many people has suspected.
Then everything changed, Marilyn died. But the real question was:
1) Was it an accident?
2) Was it Suicide?
3) Was it Murder?
And if any of those were to be suspected, the question would become: Why?
This thread is dedicted to Marilyn Monroe and will hopefully shed some light on her and her life.
Her Psychological State
As we have read above Marilyn was plagued by psychological drama and perhaps an unidentified psychological disorder. Psychological problems that were clear:
1) Had a rough childhood
2) Was a shy child
3) never had balance. Never had a clear family
4) Did not understand: Love
5) Never had true love
6) Was wanted because of her sensuality in the eyes of all men
7) Which all of this led to depression, and not just depression, but severe depression.
Drank a lot to battle the depression (Drank with her pills)
9) Her brother killed himself in WWII
10) Her Grandmother suffered from psychological issues on her mother’s side.
Unclear Psychological issues:
1) Her mother had a clear history of psychogical issues
2) It was serious enough for her to be institutionalized
She could have had a psychological issue. This issue would have followed her all the way to her death and could of been a reason why she died. Not only that, but Marilyn was suffering from severe insomnia. Which leads us to:
Drug Abuse
She overdosed on the drugs Nembutal and Chloral Hydrate, or so the official story goes. Lets examine what these drugs are.
Nembutal:
However, Nembutal is not given out as often as it used to be due to its powerful addiction and dangers of overdosing.
Chloral Hydrate:
Monroe was obviously batteling severe insomnia. And these pills mixed with a cocktail of alcohol could be potentially fatal. In fact Monroe was found dead with an empty bottle of Nembutal on her nightstand and the prescription was for 50 pills and filled 2 or 3 days before. It was recommended that she only take 1 per day.
Affairs
Before proceeding further it is important to know who she was hanging around with and maybe the motives they could have had.
Richard Burton:
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Frank Sinatra:
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John “Jack” Kennedy and Robert Kennedy:
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And probably many others. But these were the high rolers! Especially, Robert and John Kennedy, they would play a vital role.
Infact, people often quote this as why, Mariyln loved John more than Robert.
Lets not forget that she wasn’t “high” or “drunk” in this video. Infact she was sick and had a temperature of 103. But none the less she performed.
Her Words- The Words That Give Light On Her Life
Before we get to the Scene of the Crime and the theories and my conclusion to everything. I think it is imprtant to see what she spoke and lets see what she really felt.
“I have too many fantasies to be a housewife. I guess I am a fantasy.”
“An actress is not a machine, but they treat you like a machine. A money machine.”
“Being a sex symbol is a heavy load to carry, especially when one is tired, hurt and bewildered.”
“I don’t want to play sex roles any more. I’m tired of being known as the girl with the shape.”
As we can visibly see this woman was and knew that she was being viewed as a sex symbol and in most cases she enjoyed it. But deep down and further on, we begin to see an affect happening. She becomes “tired”, views herself as a “machine”, feels “Hurt” and worst of all viewed herself and her life as a fantasy.
I am going to post this, I believe Marilyn Said it, but if she did not just disregard this quote:
Marilyn was in an interview and the man asked her why didn’t she go to some big event. Marilyn smiled and said, “Because no one asked me.”
The interviewer said, “What? No one asked you?”
Marilyn then said, “No one asked me because they thought I had a date.”
It was something along those lines, but it was very powerful to what she said. Everyone thought that the woman, Marilyn Monroe, the goddess of Hollywood had a date and NO one asked her out. That was a very powerful quote if you can see the deeper meaning of it.
The Crime Scene
August 5th 1962, at 3:50am Marilyn Monroe was pronounced dead. Dead by overdose of barbituates, however, doctors disagree if it was suicide or an accident. The offical report states that she swallowed 50 Nembutal and chloral hydrate pills in one GULP. This is highly important and we will get here later.
Or at least thats what the offical report states. Lets continue on in the examination of the crime scene.
Lets view the crime scene timeline before advancing:
Timeline according to the above and accepted cause of death
7:30pm. Peter Lawford telephones Monroe. Lawford claims she sounded depressed, her speech was slurred and became less and less audible so he had to yell in order to wake her. Monroe’s last words to him were “Say Good-bye to the President and say good-bye to yourself, because you’re a really nice guy”. Some of these elaborate theories arrive from:
8-9pm. Henry Rosefeld telephones Monroe and states she sounded normal.
Around 9pm Monroe telephones hairdresser Sidney Guilaroff to arrange an appointment.
9:30-10pm. Former boyfriend Jose Bolanos telephones and states Monroe sounded normal.
Sometime after 10pm Monroe telephones Jeanne Carmen to invite her over for a talk but due to the late hour Carmen declines.
10pm. Housekeeper Eunice Murray walks past Monroe’s door and states she saw a light on under the door but decided not to disturb her.
Midnight. Murray notices the light under the door again and knocks but gets no reply. She tells police she immediately telephoned Dr Ralph Greenson, Monroe’s psychiatrist.
Dr Greenson arrives and tries to break open the door but fails. He looks through the French windows outside and sees Monroe lying on the bed holding the telephone and apparently dead so breaks the glass to open the locked door and checks her. He calls Dr. Hyman Engelberg.
The carpet in Monroe’s room was a thick pile which made it difficult but not impossible for Murray to have seen light under the door and the French windows had blackout blinds which also made it difficult to see inside the room.
Police are called and arrive shortly after 4:30am. The two doctors and Murray are questioned and indicate a time of death of around 12:30am.
Police note the room is extremely tidy and the bed appears to have fresh linen on it. They claim Murray was washing sheets when they arrived.
Police noted that the bedside table has several pill bottles but the room contained no means to wash pills down as there was no glass and the water was turned off. Monroe is known to gag on pills even when drinking to wash them down. Later a glass was found lying on the floor by the bed but police claim it was not there when the room was searched.
5:40am. The undertaker, Guy Hockett, arrives and notes that the state of rigor mortis indicates a time of death between 9:30 and 11:30pm. The time is later altered to match the witness statements.
6am. Murray changes her story and now says she went back to bed at midnight and only called Dr Greenson when she awoke at 3am and noticed the light still on. Both doctors also changed their stories and now claim Monroe died around
3:50am. Police noted Murray appeared quite evasive and extremely vague and she would eventually change her story several times. Despite being a key witness
Murray travelled to Europe and was not questioned again.
The pathologist Dr Thomas Noguchi could find no trace of capsules, powder or the typical discolouration caused by Nembutal in Monroe’s stomach or intestines indicating the drugs that killed her had not been swallowed. If Monroe had swallowed the drugs there would have been residue. If Monroe had taken them over a period of time which might account for the lack of residue she would have died long before ingesting the amount found in her bloodstream. Monroe was found lying face down but lividity on her back and the posterior aspect of the arms and legs indicated she had died lying on her back. The body was covered in bruises, all minor except for one on her hip. There was also evidence of cyanosis, an indication that death was very quick. Noguchi had asked the toxicologist for examinations of the blood, liver, kidneys, stomach, urine, and intestines which would have revealed exactly how the drugs got into Monroe’s system. However the toxicologist after examining the blood didn’t believe he needed to check other organs so many of the organs were destroyed without being examined. When
Noguchi asked for the samples, the medical photographs and slides of those that were examined and the examination form showing bruises on the body had disappeared making it impossible to investigate the cause of death.
The toxicology report shows high levels of Nembutal (38-66 capsules) and Chloral Hydrate (14-23 tablets) in Monroe’s blood. The level found was enough to kill more than 10 people .
An examination of the body ruled out intravenous injection as the source of the drugs leaving only an enema or suppository as a source. These sources were considered unlikely and had no evidence in support so Naguchi reluctantly wrote that the drugs were swallowed.
The coroner, Dr. Theodore Curphey, oversaw the full autopsy. Apart from the cause of death as listed on the death certificate, the results were never made public and no record of the findings were kept.
Lets investigate both ideas Suicide and Accidental Death:
Suicide/Accidental Death
It would not be the first time Marilyn Attempted to kill herself.
Marilyn facing all the pressure from her past and her present state, how she has grown tired of what the world has given her swallows 50 pills in ONE GULP. She lays down and dies. Thats how it works. Thats the end of her story. But what about the evidence does it support what was claimed?
Dr. Theodore Curphey the head corner stated that Marilyn Swallowed all 50 pills at once and that led to her eventual death. However, upon closer examination we see that this is not true.
How does a woman, swallow 50 HORSE pills at once? And without the aid of water. Not to mention that:
Not to mention some crazy paper work:
LINK IS THE SAME AS ABOVE.
View the autopsy report (Not the original) here: LINK
Things seem odd and very odd…. Which of course leads to a cover up, which leads to the only reason for a cover up, Murder.
Murder
Yes, murder. But by who? Before we get to speculate upon that lets anazlyze the crime scene.
1) Broken Glass on the OUTSIDE of the house. This is backed up by many eye-witnesses. Which would mean that if it were outside the house, the window was broken from the inside. However, it was stated that a barbed fire poker was used which would allow glass to fall inside and outside.
2) Miss’s Murray was doing the laundry AFTER she found out that Marilyn was dead. The sheriff did not know where she was and did not find her until he was in the laundry room. He found it odd that she was doing the laundry and the “boss” was dead.
3) Hospital personal were reported to have been there much earlier than reported. Apparently, they were able to revive her, the medical personal attempt to give her adrenaline, but the medic hit a rib and she died there. This would have been around 10:30 pm. (This was reported by an ambulance medic, however, no physical evidence exists and no one knows if this is true. However, there were no needle marks on the body).
4) There is no evidence of pills in the stomach or intestines. As was reported. Because the pills are absorbed quickly.
5) When the toxicology report came back it said that she had overdosed on Barbituates (the ones stated above). However, the reports vanished.
6) She was said to have died with the phone in her hand, however in the official pictures of the crime scene before it was touched, there is no phone in her hand.
7) Her body must have been moved. Due to there being more levitite in her right cheek that means when the police arrived her head was left cheek up. (Levitie means more blood to rested there).
The door to Marilyns room was locked and dead bolted from the inside. The door was especially heavy and a very solid door. This means that the doctor and Miss Muray could not have broken down the door so easily as they reported.
This works with what Miss Murray stated that they went to the outside and broke the window to gain entry.
9) An Enema could have been used.
10) Which would make sense with the reports. By doing this the colon would absorb the medicine directly and have a quicker effect. The question was, was her medicine used to kill her through the form of an enema?
11) Marilyn Monroes stomach had ruptures, which corroborate with the medicine she took.
12) The pills swallowed was actually 24 instead of the actual 50. The 24 would dissolve much faster and would be completely unknown.
13) Before the other suicide attempts, she told people that she was going to kill herself. This time there was nothing. However, if the reports of the phone in her hand is true then perhaps she tried to call for help…
14) Yet the Enema theory does not stand here, she would have to be forced down and expelling the enema would be more then probable. However, the autopsy report stated that she was not held down. The enema theory fails…
The evidence of murder is slim, however, there are many conflicting accounts and unusual behavior that night. Her head was moved, the actions of her workers and doctors was odd, and the reports of the phone missing from the pictures. What does it mean. Why were their so many errors and why was there so much unusual actions? Perhaps we will never know.
However, the evidence suggest that she did indeed commit suicide. The strongest piece iof evidence to support this:
1) She locked her door that night, when before she never locked her door at night.
While we like to think that she could have indeed been murdered the lack of evidence states specifically that she was not. While we like to think that maybe a conspiracy is possible here, especially with the Kennedy’s as stated here:
As the U.S. attorney general, one of Bobby Kennedy’s objectives was to crack down on Mafia-controlled unions and their leaders, most specifically AFL-CIO head Jimmy Hoffa. The union leader was supposedly tipped off that Kennedy had been sleeping with Monroe. Hoffa wanted to get the goods on the president’s pesky little brother so he allegedly wire-tapped Monroe’s home, to record the couple’s most intimate moments. When Bobby Kennedy’s handlers found out about Hoffa’s nefarious activities, they decided he had to dump Monroe, which he did.
What was Marilyn to do? According to one of her former lovers and friend, Robert Slatzer, she scheduled a press conference for Monday, Aug. 7, 1962. Monroe was planning to spill the beans on the Kennedy boys. She also made an appointment to meet with her attorney right before the press conference because she intended to revise her will.
Reportedly, Robert Kennedy was in Los Angeles on Aug. 4, the day Monroe died. His staff, however, claimed he was in San Francisco for the entire day and could not have been in Brentwood to kill Monroe.
While it is very easy to connect invisible dots and visible dots, due to how far Marilyn Monroe snuck up Washington. Affairs with the highest of authorities and probably told classifief information. I do not think she was murdered. The evidence shows that she was not. While there were many issues with the reports and the pictures, the PHYSICAL evidence itself suggest that she was not killed, there was no foul play and there was no conspiracy.
Beautity itself slayed this glamorus actress, her life was looked upon with envy and in death she became an eternal goddess of hollywood. To rule and to stay forever, however, in the end she was not brought down by an enemies hand, but by her own.
Marilyn Monroe will be remembered for everything she was in life and everything she will become in death. And even after her death pictures still appear that have never been seen:
Thank you for reading and I hope you enjoyed this thread,
Peace,
~TheMythLives
